My experience with Vapure has been hit or miss. Mostly miss. The juice is of good quality, but the flavors have generally not got the job done, for me.
Vapure is one of the first vendors to offer a 100% VG product, so for those with PG sensitivities they were one of the only answers for a while. Vaping has grown, as have choices for those who prefer their juice with no PG. Even so, Vapure is to be applauded for having the foresight to be one of the first to cater to this vaper.
Today I have their Fire Cured E Liquid. Virginia tobacco is a very elusive target. I would be selling one of my own already if this wasn't the case. Virginia tobaccos vary somewhat depending on type, where they are grown, and how they are cured, ranging in flavor from light and grassy to sweet to robust and almost cigar-like. A fire cured Virginia is typically a Red Virginia that is naturally sweet and fruity that is heat treated to bring out even more sweetness and nicotine strength. So what you want in a flue or fire cured is sweet tobacco with a kick. A delight in a pipe, even if there isn't a lot of depth of flavor. So far I haven't tasted a single juice that tastes like the real thing, including my own attempts. I'll get it eventually.
Let's take this 24mg all VG juice into The Lab and see how it performs. I will be vaping this blend at 3.7v with a 1.5 ohm Joye 306 on my Silver Bullet.
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In retrospect I may have been a little hard on Vermillion River's Kentucky Maplewood. It's just that there have been many juices that my initial enthusiasm disappeared very shortly after review. I thought that Kentucky Maplewood fit into that category, but then I reacquired my taste for it and vaped my bottle dry in no time.
That juice is a very good example of the sweet tobacco vape. There's no real sense of tobacco there, but the flavor is very good, the juice performs well and it gives a satisfying vape. It's right up there with Backwoods Brew tobaccos, Nite Lite's Bounty Hunter, and not too terribly far from the high water mark set by Vapor Station tobaccos. In hindsight it maybe should have been an It's Alive! juice, but at the time it struck me as one of those juices that wore out its welcome quickly.
So I placed another order and I have a few more Vermillion River juices to review. We continue our tour of Minnesota's own juice vendor with Vermillion River Butter Rum. The first order I placed I didn't realize that Vermillion River let you select your own free sample, so I didn't. They chose this one for me. Fortunately it''s a flavor I'm inclined to like.
I will be vaping this 20mg juice at 3.7v on my Silver Bullet with a 1.5 ohm Joye 306 atty. I have used SLB 510 attys for a long time, and getting back to using Joyes I can safely say that I prefer the Joye 306. The PG/VG ratio is listed as being 60PG/40VG to 70PG/30VG on all VR juices, but they don't specify per juice. I just want to add that I love that Vermillion River offers the 20mg nic level. That is my nic level of preference and what I make all my DIY at, but hardly any vendors offer it.
This is the 200th juice review on Vapenstein. This site will celebrate its first birthday on Halloween, and my first vaperversary is two weeks from today. It has been a lot of fun reviewing all these juices, and I have been busy with other vaping projects, as you know. I haven't been as prolific the last couple months because of everything I have on my plate, but I will never abandon this site. There will be new reviews here as long as people are still vaping and I'm still drawing breath.
200 reviews. Think about that for a moment. My goal for Vapenstein was to create a resource that vapers would find value in. I hope I've done that. In my opinion there is nothing like this site in the vaping world. I've seen vaping blogs come and go in the last year. It's always fun to start a new project, but it's easy to lose your momentum. Sticking with a web site for the long haul is something that very few people do. I hope that you have found value in the words on these pages, along with my other vaping pursuits. My promise to you is that I'm not going anywhere, and you'll continue to see new web content and new vaping product from me as time unfolds. So enough about Vapenstein, thank you. Thank you for coming here, thank you for reading, and thank you for trying my product. Without you, all of this is nothing.
Today I am reviewing a new juice from a vendor I think is a real class act, Vaperite. More than anyone in vaping, Mr. Todd Gano was the inspiration for me to start creating my own juice. His natural tobacco extracts were pretty much unique in all of vaping a year ago when I started. In fact, Todd was the first person I spoke to about creating Vapenstein Blend juice, and for a short time before I met Donley we were going to do the project together. He'll always have my thanks, and I have a tremendous amount of respect for the man and his product.
Today's juice is Vaperite Madagascar Vanilla Tobacco, which is Todd's house extracted tobacco with a vanilla finish. Sounds wonderful, let's head to The Lab. I will be vaping this 16mg 50PG/50VG blend at 3.7v on my Silver Bullet with a 1.5 ohm 306 atty.
I'm almost exactly two weeks away from my first vaperversary. That first week I had a handful of juices, and they were mostly crap that I found unpalatable. The saving grace the first couple days of vaping was a 3ml sample of Vapure VY4 that Rick sent with my Copper.
Like most people, I love a good deal, and I started with like 120ml of Vapor Renu because it was so cheap. It was also unvapable. So I vaped the hell out of Wyatt Earp and VY4, which were the only two juices I had at first that I could stomach. The following week I got my first Vapor Station and Backwoods orders, and I was ok from that point, but that first week I owe to FSUSA and Vapure.
To commemorate one year of vaping I am revisting VY4 this week. I haven't vaped it since then, and there's a lot of juice under the bridge since then. Let's see how it holds up to a veteran palate.
I will be vaping today's 24mg 100%VG juice at 3.7v on my Silver Bullet with a 1.5 ohm 306 atty.
When Vermillion River first came on the scene they had a fairly nicely designed website (with a horrid color scheme) and no one had ever heard anything about them. I think I may have said some disparaging words on ECF regarding slick web design and product no one had heard of, and dismissed them out of hand.
Fast forward almost a year, and my friend basilray surprised me by giving Vermillion River the number one spot in his top ten juices on an episode of his weekly VapeTV show. I have a tremendous amount of respect for Jesse's opinion, so I ordered a bottle to see for myself.
Vermillion River's tobacco base carries the moniker Kentucky Premium, and they offer it straight or in cherry, maple, vanilla and apple variants. I ordered the maple. Vermillion River says their base has smooth nut and caramel undertones and makes no mention of natural tobacco, so what I am hoping for here is a good artificial tobacco vape with sweet flavor notes.
I will be vaping this 20mg juice at 3.7v on my Silver Bullet with a brand new 1.5 ohm 306 atty. The PG/VG ratio is listed as being 60PG/40VG to 70PG/30VG on all VR juices, but they don't specify per juice.
It's been a long time since I reviewed a juice from Todd at Vaperite. I was fortunate in that I found Vaperite very early in my vaping career, and Todd showed me that giving up smoking didn't necessarily mean giving up tobacco. Vaperite, along with Tasty Vapor, Vermont Vapor, want2vape and Backwoods Brew, is one of the pioneers of the natural tobacco extract juice. Newcomers have shown up in the last year, but to my knowledge these five vendors were the first to start offering natural tobacco juices to vapers.
Not all of Todd's tobacco vapes are natural tobacco. There are at least a couple FlavourArt juices in his lineup. I think that today's juice probably falls in the artificially flavored category, since he makes no mention of a house extract on the product page for it.
Vaperite 777 Tobacco is described as an earthy take on the traditional 555. Nut and tobacco. I don't mind this combination at all when it's executed well, so let's head to The Lab to see if Vaperite 777 can meet our demanding performance benchmarks.
I will be vaping this 16mg 50PG/50VG blend at 3.7v on my Silver Bullet with a 1.7 ohm SLB atty.
Goodejuice is taking a novel approach with today's test subject, Goodejuice Hickory Cured Tobacco. According to them they smoked their target tobacco for twelve hours prior to extraction, then blending the result with their Burley tobacco extract. Trailer park Latakia or brilliant idea?
The thing missing from most tobacco vapes is a sense of burning tobacco. You end up with natural tobacco juices that taste grassy and hay-like because of this. For the artificially flavored tobaccos, some vendors try to impart this missing link by adding tobacco absolute, an extremely potent form of concentrated extract. It's a very fine wire to balance on. A very tiny amount will indeed give a juice an ashy element, but cross that line and you are selling people ash tray flavored juice.
I wouldn't use absolute, and in an attempt to recreate this missing element of burning tobacco I would put my money on the smoked tobacco.
Goodejuice's Black Jack Tobacco didn't win me over. Let's see if they fare any better with today's juice. I will be vaping this 18mg 50/50 blend at 3.7v on my Silver Bullet with a brand new 1.7 ohm SLB atty.
Rawr Vapor describes their Poison as a straight tobacco vape.
This is a tobacco with a twist and unlike almost every other juice on this site: this one does not have any fruits, creams, or nuts.
Rawr's bread and butter has been fruity menthol vapes, and frankly they do it better than anyone. I foresee one of two outcomes for this review. Either they get this right, and it's a solid tobacco vape that can stand proud with the best the community has to offer, or, they're attempting something that is outside of their forte and this vape will miss the mark entirely.
Making a tobacco vape is extremely problematic. I have yet to find any off the shelf flavorings that I thought were any good. Natural tobacco extracts are one way to skin a cat, but to make a good one requires more science than most vendors are capable of applying. Even then, problems persist with solid particle content and these juices tend to be atty killers. A really smart flavoring chemist could come up with several of the key performance elements that recreate the physical satisfaction we seek in tobacco, but so far only one vendor I can think of has done a good job with this approach. Next time you vape a tobacco juice that you enjoy, take a moment to appreciate how hard it is to make a good one. Someone put a lot of thought, time and effort into that juice.
Rawr Vapor's Poison promises us cigarette. Let's see if today's test subject is truly poison, or if it more closely resembles a bunch of makeup wearing hair metal sissies. I will be vaping today's 18mg 70PG/30VG juice at 3.7v on my Silver Bullet with a brand new 1.7 ohm SLB atty.
Goodejuice started brewing up their own in-house tobacco extracts, so it's time to sample their wares. Three things make me especially qualified to evaluate natural tobacco extract e liquid: I love natural tobacco juice; I love tobacco and am an ardent pipe smoker and hoarder of tobacco; and I am involved in the production of juices that currently set the bar for what natural tobacco extract juice can be. That is not ego talking, it's simply the truth. Sooner or later someone else will be able to duplicate what we do, but until then Donley Wilson and myself are the world's foremost experts on creating natural tobacco extracts for use in e liquid.
There are many pitfalls in making your own tobacco extracts, and unfortunately I can't be too specific without giving away solutions that we've developed in overcoming some of them. Suffice it to say, you can't just chop up some tobacco and soak it in PG and hope for good results. If anyone could do it, anyone would do it. Making a natural tobacco extract that contains a genuine resemblance to the target tobacco is tough, and this is compounded by the fact that we aren't burning the stuff, so the flavor is not quite the same as the flavor of the tobacco when smoked. Then you have to think about performance. Maybe your extract doesn't have that throat hit and core satisfaction that tobacco lovers crave. The creation of a good tobacco extract must satisfy many variables for people who are really going to be offended if you get it wrong.
Let's get this 18mg 50/50 blend into The Lab and see how Goodejuice did. I will be vaping this juice at 3.7v on my Silver Bullet with a 1.7 ohm SLB atty.
Joogler describes their JB3 as "Nutty Tobacco Blend". Where have I heard that before?
There is so much nut in our tobacco vapes. I wonder how this happened. Tobacco vape is synonymous with mystery nut with throat hit. It is so prevalent that I have heard back from a couple vapers that my London, which contains no mystery nut, tasted like burning tires to them. I think tobacco is very hard to get right in a vape. Probably only the top 5% of vendors are capable of pulling it off. So the rest resort to copying DK Tab or RY4 and as a result there are a whole lot of vapers out there who have developed a taste for sweet and/or peanut-y vapes.
The first batch of juices I got from Joogler didn't do much for me. I have been pretty impressed with this last batch though, and I am also impressed with the people behind Joogler for sending me a second batch after I wasn't terribly kind to the first batch. Kudos for not taking it personally. None of this is personal.
I would love to give every juice that comes into The Lab a great review. I know there are real people behind these juices. Unfortunately, Vapenstein doesn't amount to much as a vaping resource unless I attempt to be as honest and objective as I can. Some will already think that these opinions are tainted by the fact that I make my own juice. At the end of the day, I am a vaper just like you. Also, kind of like someone who cooks for a living, I don't vape much of my own juice. I don't know whether that is due to familiarity, having developed those flavors over time, or whether I simply prefer the cooking of others. I've also probably vaped more juice than just about anyone in vaping, and am creeping up on juice review #200. This is #193 if you're keeping tabs.
Let's get this 18mg 70%PG/30%VG blend into The Lab. I am vaping today at 3.7v on my Silver Bullet, and I have donned a fresh 1.7 ohm SLB atty for this experiment.
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