I vaped a small bottle of Charlie Noble Tripoli while I was still using 306 attys and loved it. I cloned it from memory, which I don't recommend. So I'm on batch #7 of my from memory Tripoli clone and I ordered another small bottle of the real thing a couple weeks back. I'm kind of shocked at how close I've gotten with none of the real thing to go by since January. One more tweak and I'm satisfied to call batch #8 a Tripoli Clone and share it.
Is it perfect? No. It's the same color and tint, but if you hold it to the light mine is just a hair lighter, but you have to squint to notice the difference. It smells the same. The fig is probably just a shade less forward. I use TFA Toasted Almond, and I'm going to try TFA Almond to see if that is a better match. The tobacco is most definitely not what Charlie Noble is using, but it's what I had on hand that worked and didn't make a new flavor profile. Originally I was using a combination of two tobaccos, but it made the tobacco too forward so I cut it down to one. For me, I vape the real thing and then I vape my clone and I can see subtle differences, but I feel that my clone recipe will pass for a dead ringer for most, so I'm comfortable sharing it in this state. If I end up making any little tweaks that I feel make this clone absolutely perfect, they'll be reflected here, where I keep the DIY recipes that I'm serious about.
I like Charlie Noble. I like their juice and I like them as a company. I feel no moral dilemma in posting my clone of one of their juices, because the average Charlie Noble customer is not going to jump ship for DIY. This is for those of you who make your own juice, which is a relatively small percentage of overall vapers. I hope that Charlie Noble, if they ever see this, will take it as a compliment instead of taking offense.
The target juice is a blend of Turkish tobacco, fig, almond and exotic spices. It's a very pleasant vape, way different than any fruit vape, and a nice change of pace for a guy like me who vapes a lot of custards. Let's take this clone into The Lab and see how it stacks up to the original.
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Looking for the perfect custard led me to DIY when I wasn't finding what I was looking for in a commercial vape. There is a Grant's Vanilla Custard clone recipe on the web that by all accounts is right on the money. So that's where I started.
The recipe uses Capella's Vanilla Custard, and you have a choice between original or v2. The original is probably packed with extra tasty diacetyl, and the v2 reformulation is diacetyl free.
My personal stance on diketones in eliquid is not to worry. The worst case scenario of course is terminal, irreversible popcorn lung. Commercial cigarettes are far higher in diketone concentration than any eliquid, and to date I believe that the only confirmed diacetyl related cases of popcorn lung were contracted by workers in a microwave popcorn factory and one weirdo who was so addicted to microwave popcorn that he used to inhale the aroma right out of the bag regularly. Their exposure to diacetyl was much, much higher than would ever be possible from smoking tobacco or vaping eliquid.
It's good to know the risks, it's good to know what's in your juice, but in my opinion there really isn't anything to worry about vaping this stuff. We'll know for sure when a few years have gone by with people sub ohming these flavorings at a higher rate of ml/day, but as things stand right now I don't find any cause for concern. I totally endorse your right to vape or avoid flavorings with diketones, but at the present time I find no reason to advocate against their use. Know what you're vaping and make your own informed decision.
Today I am going to review the Grant's Vanilla Custard Clone recipe using Capella's Vanilla Custard v1, which is the "unsafe" version of the flavoring. Let's take this 3 month old juice into The Lab and see what comes to light. First, the recipe:
The search for the perfect custard vape always had to end here. I've vaped a lot of custards in the last few months. I've enjoyed many of them, been disappointed by more, but never vaped one that I felt was perfect.
I've never vaped Grant's Vanilla Custard, but it's so well regarded and the consensus appears to be that the clone recipe on the internet is right on the money that the first step I took on the DIY path of this quest was to make this clone. I've made this recipe several times now. I wanted to try it exactly per the recipe using both v1 and v2 of Capella's Vanilla Custard, and then I wanted to perfect it to my own tastes using those as my starting point and adding other elements. I've made a couple of variations so far, and neither attempt has produced a juice that was as good as the standard recipe. Maybe it can't be improved upon, but I have a couple more ideas I'd like to try before I throw in the towel.
If you've never made your own juice before it can seem daunting. It isn't. You can start with as little as a glass syringe, a graduated cylinder and some amber glass bottles. If you end up liking DIY you can add more equipment. As far as the results, DIY can give you juice that you think is way better than any commercial eliquid, and it can also seem at times that you just can't get a recipe dialed in. You will develop a feel for recipes that will pan out and those that won't, and after a little time tweaking ok recipes into great ones won't seem like magic, because you will be familiar with your ingredients and have a good idea what components in what quantities are going to give you what you are looking for, just like in the kitchen. Not everyone will be patient enough to master DIY, but those of you who persevere will be vaping top notch juice to the tune of about $15/liter.